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March 25, 2005
Some conservatives don't like the quotes on Starbucks cups
They say there are too many liberal viewpoints. Of the 31 contributors listed on Starbucks' Web site, only one -- National Review editor Jonah Goldberg -- offers a conservative viewpoint. Some customers have complained to Starbucks' Web site, labeling the campaign "offensive" and the company a proponent of "the destruction of family values and virtues." (St. Petersburg Times)
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Comments
"I want to enjoy your product without having Earth Day Network propaganda thrust at me," wrote Malachi Salcido of East Wenatchee, Wash.
Whoa! "Earth Day Propaganda"???? He says it like saving the earth is some terrible thing that Starbucks is forcing on you. He's probably one of those people that drives to work in an H2 and tosses his starbucks cups out the window when he's finished with them. Arrgh!
Posted by: 1049xxx | Mar 25, 2005 9:04:59 AM
i dont understand why conservatives have such knee-jerk reactions to things. a person with a different viewpoint to another can still say things that are useful and meaningful. on the SB page about this controversy, someone complains about Al Franken's quote - but its harmless. its not like he ended his quote with 'and i hate george bush. go coffee!' there are millions of people with different views and just because its on a cup doesnt mean you have to subscribe to it. i used to work in Barnes & Noble - all i ever heard was that we were a liberal store. so much so it became a problem and i actually snapped a couple of times. buy your book - i dont care what you believe. drink your coffee - who cares what the cup says. they say its there to make you think, well, it looks like they failed. it made people complain, not think.
Posted by: michael ian bateson | Mar 25, 2005 12:04:01 PM
jeeze, i didn't even notice there where quotes on the sides of the cups.
I would like to point out the the poster 1049xxx isn't much better then those complaining about the cups tho. "He's probably one of those people ..." Any sort of dialog that contains 'those people' is less then constructive, and does not help to form a meaningful debate about anything.
Posted by: rofo | Mar 25, 2005 1:47:05 PM
I just relized the other thing that bugs me about this ... and it really does bug me. The 'conservatives' closly align themselves with republicans. Republicans for the most part are very pro-business, pro-capatilism lot (I count myself among the republicans that arn't 'conservatives') Using strickly capitalist, small government type thinking, if you don't like something, you don't buy it. It's the coroporations choice if they wish to cater to you and get your business, or cater to another crowd for their business. I bet most of these people don't buy *$'s enough to even notice if they all boycotted our beloved coffee seller.
I mean really, your not buy the philisophy of the business, you're buying a product. If the product is a good value to you, who cares how/when/who got it there.
Posted by: rofo | Mar 25, 2005 1:54:22 PM
Ok, I have issue with the republican that said she was used to being "under represented." If anything DEMOCRATS are under represented in the current political climate. I'm sick and tired of having radical right wing republican views shoved down my throat everywhere I go. And besides, she's in florida! How in the name of god's green earth does a florida republican feel under-represented! You guys have fox news, let us have our coffee cups.
Posted by: thinksdifferent | Mar 25, 2005 4:44:17 PM
They've got the White House, they've got Congress, they're in the process of getting the courts. Pity the poor conservatives, so marginalized, so picked-upon. Boo-hoo-hoo.
Posted by: | Mar 25, 2005 4:45:54 PM
Personally, I find the quotes uplifting, soul-warming...
Alas, I am not a conservative.
Posted by: Joseph Massey | Mar 25, 2005 5:33:05 PM
Hi! I was well aware of the liberal bias of Starbucks on the cup the moment I started reading them. Maybe Starbucks will start putting quotes from Bill O'Reily on the cups. Being in Boston, you can always tell there is a Democratic basis here in the city and even the Republicans are somewhat liberal depending on what issues you want to talk about. Oh, BTW, O'Reily gets me mad just watching him on TV I have to shut him off before I throw my quad half-caf grande sugar-free vanilla soy latte at my widescreen plasma TV.
Posted by: Boston Starbucks Rebel | Mar 25, 2005 5:52:44 PM
I never noticed the quotes, but that remark from Yvette is choice.
Posted by: Bob Dole | Mar 25, 2005 9:52:41 PM
Or maybe she does feel underrepresented by Republicans; after all, she does have an ethnic name.
I just submitted that to Starbucks.
Posted by: Bob Dole | Mar 25, 2005 9:53:55 PM
You know what? If they don't like the quotes, then don't support the company. Simple as that.
And free speech. But people like to complain about everything, so why am I not surprised?
Posted by: chelsea | Mar 26, 2005 1:11:09 PM
"I want to enjoy your product without having Earth Day Network propaganda thrust at me," wrote Malachi Salcido of East Wenatchee, Wash.
--
I wonder why Malachi Salcido hates Earth Day.
Malachi Salcido is a really unique name. I plugged it into Google and found 13 links. All from Wenatchee, Washington.
He is the owner of Salcido Connection Inc - an HVAC service contractor. They deal with heating, ventilation and air conditioning service and repair.
Most air conditioners use CFCs for its refrigerant and CFCs are the leading cause of ozone depletion. The U.S. regulates how the HVAC can handle CFCs. Environmentalists (such as Earth Day Network members) would like to strengthen these regulations while HVAC businesses (such as Salcido Connection Inc) tend to be interested in weakening these regulations.
Mr. Salcido can potentially make more money if there is a reduction of regulations for ozone depleting CFCs. Maybe that is why Malachis Salcido hates the "Earth Day Network propaganda".
Posted by: I did my homework | Mar 26, 2005 1:24:21 PM
how is a coffee company aiding in "the destruction of family values and virtues" by printing some liberal rhetoric on cups? this makes ZERO sense on so many different levels. i don't like whiny, accusatory right-wingers.
Posted by: soldado23 | Mar 26, 2005 4:28:39 PM
"While I understand the unfortunate occurrence of scientists regarding this theory as truth, there is great evidence that points to something other than evolution as the beginning of human life."
Hahahaha. This is one of my favorite things of all: ignorant religious zealots who confuse mangled syntax with erudition. But, to be fair, "theory", "truth", and "evidence" are highly technical terms that may not be fully grasped until you have read the Bible at least 25 times. Maybe Starbucks should help with a few verses.
Posted by: Jonathan Vogeler | Mar 27, 2005 12:34:57 AM
Forget the quotes. I don't like the coffee.
Oh my God, a heretic in our midst!
Posted by: Dr. Fager | Mar 27, 2005 5:31:43 AM
To Jay Cridlin, the reporter (or his editor):
Lousy lede on a fine story. Reading the headline, I think this piece is about conservatives being angered by Sbux cup quotes. Reading the lede, I think it's about liberals being either emotionless or happy about them. (That's not clear.) Then comes "Not everyone agrees," indicating that the lede is a counterexample. Hunh? To flip-flop into a story like this is weird and confusing. This guy belonged way down in the story, if at all, not at the beginning.Posted by: cornfrost | Mar 27, 2005 3:59:19 PM
Guess I'll be going to Starbucks more. Funny, I keep hearing from republicans how much they revere "freedom". But they absolutely cant stand to see anyone exercise free speech at odds with theirs.
Posted by: Let Freedom Ring | Mar 27, 2005 4:18:18 PM
Must people complain about everything???
The rest of the world just laughs at us. All the crap in world that goes on every day and folks want to complain about what friggin quote is on their coffee cup?
Get a life!
Posted by: CoffeeBoy | Mar 27, 2005 7:53:45 PM
Why is it that when a conservative complains about liberals quotes that liberals immediately think conservatives are against free speech? Doesn't the conservative have the right to free speech as well? Think of what you are going to say before you say it. Then see if it contradicts itself. In other words, saying that someone is against free speech when they are using it is contradictory.
Posted by: A conservative | Mar 28, 2005 9:22:48 AM
Oh great. Now the picky crack-in-a-cup drinking buttpies will complain about the coffee AND the cups. I'm so excited.
Posted by: BucksBabe | Mar 28, 2005 10:07:18 AM
Since Starbucks is having their Annual Brewing Sale, I recommend the cup-quote haters buy a machine, some beans, a grinder and brew their crack at home. Then drink it out of whatever vessel is most desirable. In fact, bring that vessel in (only after you decide you can be nice to a barista) for a cup of your favorite beverage and receive a 10c discount. OK?
Posted by: GreenApron | Mar 28, 2005 10:16:52 AM
To A CONSERVATIVE:
The problem is not that conservatives disagree with some of the comments. The problem is that they want them to be physically taken off the cups. If you would like to rationally dispute any of the points made, that is a CONVERSATION and it is welcomed and the whole point of the quotes. If you want to silence anyone who made it on your black list, like Al Franken, or uses words you dont like, such as "evolution", that is censorship. Its not illegal, since its not the gov't, but in a democracy we should encourage a free exchange.Posted by: A Liberal | Mar 28, 2005 11:03:37 AM
I'm a conservative republican and I don't mind the quotes. You may agree or disagree with the quotes, but why do certain people try to pigeon hole all the conservatives into one bucket.
Posted by: Conservative Republican | Mar 28, 2005 1:06:25 PM
By conservatives i did not mean "all conservatives". I thought that was clear - but then again when "A Conservative" referred to "liberals" I guess I did assume he meant "all liberals" Point taken.
Posted by: A Liberal | Mar 28, 2005 1:33:37 PM
Amen, to that Green Apron. Opppps, was I being a Christian fundamentalist. I hope not because those people just scare me. All their yelling and screaming on TV and asking for money.
Posted by: Boston Starbucks Rebel | Mar 28, 2005 7:18:17 PM
Dear conservatives mentioned in the article: You are absolutely right. Starbucks is an evil place that will destroy your soul. God is angry at you every time you set foot in the place.
Get out and leave the rest of us to suffer in peace and quiet. I believe Dunkin' Donuts has quote-free cups if you need an alternative.
Posted by: harrietwrath | Mar 28, 2005 8:00:35 PM
OK maybe I haven't read all the cups but of the ones I have read the only one that seems remotely inflamitory is the one about evolution. Most of what I have seen are about people's views on life in the sense of how they face aging or such. What is the big f-ing deal? So what if most of the people that are quoted are "liberal"? You can submit your own quotes. But I'm sure that some of you will think there is some liberal conspiricy that won't allow "conservatives" to have a say. I'm sorry but all this fuss over a little thing like quotes? Most of you I doubt read the cups because the cup sleeve is in the way. If you don't like our cups A)Find another coffee shop B) don't read the quote C) bring your own cup!
Posted by: Shift for Starbucks | Mar 28, 2005 8:24:23 PM
I imagine these American Taliban types would only be happy if the cups included Bible passages (New Testament only, please) and a list of George Bush's virtues as a Great Leader (you could fit those on a Chantico cup).
My biggest complaint about the quotes is that they are boring and in most cases, the heat guard you slip onto your cup makes them impossible to read. Poor cup design!
Otherwise, if it annoys these humorless, right-wing, mind-control zealots...it must be a good thing. Keep it up, Starbucks!
Posted by: an american | Mar 29, 2005 9:43:26 AM
Wait: if some conservatives are complaining about the liberal bias of quotes on Starbucks cups, then I want to *STOP* hearing the conservative media running on about "Latte Liberals," one of their favorite strawmen/whippingboys. Or, better yet, let's start a backlash against "latte conservatives" and get this country back on track.
Posted by: thatbob | Mar 29, 2005 9:59:58 AM
Yup, another tempest in a teapot. can't everyone go back to arguing whether or not that florida woman is dead or not?
Posted by: bobdobbs | Mar 29, 2005 11:58:50 AM
Here is my contribution to Starbucks cups:
Pandas are crap.
Let's look at the evidence:
They only eat one thing, and prefer to starve to death if they can't get it, rather than eat something else. Duh!
Not only that, but attempts to save the idiots from extinction repeatedly fail because they're actually too lazy to shag other pandas.
How the stupid bastards managed to evolve in the first place I have no idea.
Here is a species which by all the laws of evolution does not deserve to survive. By attempting to save them humankind is bollocking up the evolutionary process.
For this reason, I say:
Fuck the pandas.
Posted by: PrincessKate | Mar 29, 2005 1:10:12 PM
Anyone who labels themselves as either liberal or conservative has lost sight of the reason we have a brain. Anyone who feels threatened by words on a coffee cup should drink their coffee somewhere else; and PLEASE remember the 1st amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which was written before there were liberals and conservatives. Get a life you morons.
Posted by: An "American" | Mar 29, 2005 1:25:28 PM
Dumb quotes with coffee,
liberals defend big biz.
Drink fast-end is near.Posted by: LightenUP | Mar 29, 2005 2:28:23 PM
Hi! If somebody reads back a few months there was an article written on Democrats were more likely to visit Starbucks. Republicans were more likely to visit Wal-Mart. Any comments on that?
Posted by: Boston Starbucks Rebel | Mar 29, 2005 3:24:59 PM
I'm a conservative...and (GASP!) a CHRISTIAN conservative...and (GAAASSSSSPPP!) a PASTOR! And I think the quotes on the cups are pretty cool! Do I agree with everything everyone of them says? Heck, no! But then again, I don't always agree with everything I say!
It's what makes the world go around...that variety stuff! Find something else to moan and whine about, for goodness' sake...
Posted by: charlie | Mar 29, 2005 4:53:32 PM
These "quote cups" are brilliant. They have obviously served their purpose well since they have caused debate and discussion. Let's get one thing straight; I am a member of the Republican party and have never voted for a Democrat. Now, with that said, I find it odd that some republicans want ideas and opinions removed from the public forum. Aren't republicans against groups like the ACLU removing religious views from the public forum?
Something to think about. Maybe it should be on a cup.
Posted by: Writer_NW | Mar 30, 2005 2:44:24 PM
Conservatives are the biggest bunch of crybabies. They're soooo oppressed! Last time I checked they were ruling the world.
Posted by: Larry Davenport | Mar 30, 2005 2:58:56 PM
I must apologize. When I said "Conservatives are the biggest bunch of crybabies." I meant to say "Republicans are the biggest bunch of crybabies (and hypocrits)." I understand conseravtive and Republican are two different things (just like Environmentalist and tree-hugger).
Posted by: Larry Davenport | Mar 31, 2005 10:15:05 AM
Re: Starbucks Quotes . . . not to nitpick but I noticed that "author" Goldie Hawn's bio as one of the Starbucks pithy quote contributors claims that she's married to actor Kurt Russell. Commonlaw perhaps, but not legally. All other descriptions of the two portray them as "partners." Contributor Melissa Ethridge, on the other hand, is legally married. There's a moral in this post somewhere but I'll leave it to others to decide what that should be.
Posted by: Adrian | Mar 31, 2005 1:27:51 PM
I had no idea we were classifying typos as moral parables these days.
Posted by: | Mar 31, 2005 7:20:28 PM
How about putting some conservative quotes on the cups then to even things out? Maybe:
"I want to rub falaffels on your boobies" --Bill O'Reilly
"Morals, morals, blah, blah, blah...now put $20 on black and spin that wheel!" --Bill Bennett
"We should celebrate life! Abortion is bad, mmmkay? Now strap that retard in the electric chair and fry him!" --Dubya
"Pills! Pills! Gimme more of that sweet oxy!" --Rush Limbaugh
"We can't let Terri die! Trial lawyers are bad! Hey did I ever tell you about the time I pulled the plug on my own veggie dad and then sued a ball bearing manufacturer because they're obviously to blame for his death?" --Tom Delay
Yeah, that'll work.
Posted by: Holden McCrank | Apr 1, 2005 7:20:56 AM
Holden-LOVED the post! Great points made, and I spewed my Starbucks coffee all over my monitor, it made me laugh so hard.
Just like everything else you read, see, watch, etc.that you think is offensive-if you don't like it...turn it off, change the channel, don't read your coffee cup.
Posted by: pnwgal | Apr 1, 2005 10:20:07 AM
Holden, you are the reason why the swing voters voted for Bush in 2004. You people just don't get it. I could easily rattle off a few asinine comments about liberals.
Does it really get us anywhere?
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 1, 2005 11:31:30 AM
They're just quotes, who cares. It seem as if you people got nothing to do then bitch and whine about something so insignificant. Isn't there something better to bitch at?
Posted by: Realistic | Apr 1, 2005 10:11:24 PM
Holden - great, funny comments. And how does it feel to know that you hold such power? According to previous visitors, you and you alone are responsible for Bush winning the presidency!
Posted by: | Apr 2, 2005 9:45:04 AM
Nice point Holden. But there are other republicans:
GEORGE BUSH: "Gay Marriage is destroying my marriage."
MARY CHENEY: ....
DICK CHENEY: "I stand behind the president - just over here about arms length from my daughter."
MARY CHENEY: ....
ALAN KEYES: "Mary Cheney is a selfish hedonist"
MARY CHENEY: ....
GEORGE BUSH: "I WON I WON!!!!"
MARY CHENEY: "Anyone want a book deal?"
Posted by: barista boy | Apr 2, 2005 12:10:48 PM
Some people here need to learn how to read. Maybe when I said, "you people..." that would have clued you in on what my point was.
Another knee-jerk reaction from a liberal. Doesn't suprise me.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 2, 2005 9:38:42 PM
Another whine from a "persecuted" conservative. Doesn't surprise me.
Posted by: | Apr 3, 2005 12:30:37 AM
Still doesn't change the fact that you can't read.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 3, 2005 11:18:53 AM
And how about you post an e-mail address? Quit hiding behind your computer.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 3, 2005 12:26:57 PM
my email is lyke woah click on the link.
Posted by: teenoncrack | Apr 3, 2005 1:08:32 PM
Okay, I realize I'm testing the upper limits of Mr. Romenesko's patience here, but I'm going to respond.
No, you may not have my email address. I don't particularly care what that makes you believe I am or represent. I learned, through trial and error, that the average self-identifying and Internet-based conservative loses all sense of composure when corresponding on a 1-to-1 basis. The entire lot of you are vile, hateful, and threatening when you think that no one else is looking.
All you need to know about me is that I don't agree with you.
Posted by: | Apr 3, 2005 2:28:32 PM
For a peace loving liberal you sure have a lot of hate, rage, and anger. For claiming to be so open-minded (as most liberal claim) you have sure made quite a few assumptions about myself and conservatives in general.
But carry on with your hypocrisy.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 3, 2005 6:06:07 PM
I've got a compassionate conservative calling me a hypocritical rage addict because I said I don't like him and won't give him (or her, whatever) my email address. Amused! May I remind you that my initial offense (in your eyes) was simply doing a manual search-and-replace on a single sentence from a previous post of yours?
Re-rail attempt: If you read your comments within context of the article and the other comments to this post, perhaps you'll understand some-- oh, who am I kidding? You'll just cry about being persecuted some more.
Posted by: | Apr 4, 2005 12:06:12 PM
poo likea da starbuck, but why did da starbuk take poo offf the coment liste? maybe my qwotes are importante to.
poo put!!!1
Posted by: poo | Apr 4, 2005 3:36:07 PM
Nice try. But it won't work. Maybe it works with your pseudo-intellectual buddies, but it won't work here. You clearly made an attempt at humor which added nothing to the conversation. I point this fact out to you then you cry and whine.
Next time try to add something to the conversation other than libel.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 4, 2005 5:24:19 PM
Oh, look. More cries of persecution. For someone who complained about stereotypical views of conservatives, you're certainly playing the part. Care to justify your own stab at name-calling?
Posted by: | Apr 4, 2005 5:30:24 PM
Sure, if you'd justify yours.
Tit for tat, kid.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 4, 2005 5:46:49 PM
I'm betting it has something to do with proving you can dish it out but can't take it, in which case the concept was thoroughly proven. I'll wait for your date to respond, though.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 4, 2005 5:49:18 PM
Let's have some more liberal quotes!
"I did not have sexual relation with that woman..."
"Indeed I did have a relationship with her."Bill Clinton
"I like to stuff confidential memos in my underwear!"
Sandy Berger"Ghandi owns a gas station in DC."
Hillary Clinton"YEEEAAAAAAHHHHH!"
Howard DeanPosted by: writer_nw | Apr 4, 2005 5:50:54 PM
"WHERE'S MY SCOTCH?!?!!?"
Ted Kennedy
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 4, 2005 5:56:57 PM
give it a rest. everybody both liberal or conservative has people that has said things that we all cringe at. ok? Really I don't get what is so inflammitory about the quotes besides the one about evolution. Can someone explain this to me?
Posted by: shift for starbucks | Apr 4, 2005 8:00:52 PM
If that was directed at me then I suggest you scroll down and read.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 4, 2005 10:04:30 PM
I did read all the posts here and I still see no one stating which quotes are so "liberal". Yes there people quoted may be catigorized as "liberal" but the quotes, at least all that I have seen are pretty much just their views on their life and on the world, nothing shocking. I just want to understand the fuss.
Posted by: shift for starbucks | Apr 5, 2005 5:27:31 AM
if you read my initial post you would see that I don't have a problem with the quotes. My problem is with the people on here that find it funny to engage in libel.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 6, 2005 5:27:43 AM
thank you NW but I wanted to hear from someone else who does have a problem with the quotes
Posted by: shift fro starbucks | Apr 6, 2005 5:52:36 AM
You don't get more right wing, Christian conservative than me. I make Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter look liberal. And I am very proud of my uber conservative views, and yes I think that I am correct in my views otherwise I wouldn't think them.
With this said, GIVE ME A BREAK! Oh come on, you whiners, shut up!
So what if a company posts liberal garbage on the side of their cups, it is their business after all. Don't they have the "right" to do that if they wish? Don't you have the right to boycott them if you don't like it? It is fine to express your opinion to the company and say, "Hey, I would like to see more conservative people quoted on your cups." But (yes I started a sentence with "but") to worry about such insignificance is rediculous. How about you guys go worry about something worthwhile like abortion.
I am a dedicated customer of Starbucks, and I will continue to be. As long as I don't find out that Starbucks donates money to proabortion groups, they have me as a customer for a lifetime. Or until they stop making my Venti Mocha with only half the mocha. Oh yeah, I am getting me some tomorrow morning just to spite some of you.
Posted by: K9Justice | Apr 7, 2005 12:32:57 AM
That's it. Just turn off your brain and make all your decisions based on support of pro-abortion groups, or some other single-minded qualifier.
Posted by: Mr. Snrub | Apr 7, 2005 6:40:27 AM
Hey Snrub...I thought as a liberal you would be open to his views on abortion.
Aren't liberals supposed to be open-minded?
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 7, 2005 2:51:02 PM
Hey folks, let's lighten up a bit. I didn't launch this to have it turn into another ugly political website.
Posted by: STARBUCKS GOSSIP webmaster | Apr 7, 2005 2:57:19 PM
I hope everyone sees that the inflamatory rhetoric was coming from the liberals, not the conservatives, on here.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 7, 2005 4:59:47 PM
I'm not criticizing K9's views on abortion, just his single-mindedness on the issue. Why would you assume I'm "liberal" just for calling that out?
Posted by: Mr. Snrub | Apr 8, 2005 9:02:17 AM
In any case you were blasting his views on which companies he wants to support and for what reasons.
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 8, 2005 4:39:58 PM
I spend many (paid) hours a day in *$, and I haven't read but maybe 3 of the quotes. Even on slow days, I have something better to do.
All of the quotes are obscured by insulating sleeves, anyway. Anyone who's really in a twist about something printed ON THE CUP could perhaps refrain from removing said sleeve, lest there be something unsavory printed underneath. You know, since they have to go to *Starbucks* and not some other place.
Getting into a debate over what's printed on the cups is just silly. Besides, if you're so offended by what you see swimming in print, perhaps you should do some research on businesses that you patronize. *$ is a progressive company that extends medical/vision/dental benefits to not only the partner and his/her spouse, but also to his/her "domestic partner." They also offer partner assistance as well as dependence recovery, mental health coverage, adoption assistance, etc. Oh, and they RECYCLE. It's terribly "liberal". And you've been buying your coffee here for how long?If you only knew that *$ makes a point of paying fair prices to poor, coffee-producing countries, you might never come back. A shame, really.
Posted by: BaristaBee | Apr 11, 2005 1:52:17 AM
You're missing the point, NW. It's that he's basing a company's worth on only one reason. I'd have the same criticism for some latte-liberal who passed judgement on a company soley that they supported baby-seal hunts. That's Knee-jerk.
Posted by: Mr. Snrub | Apr 11, 2005 7:30:18 AM
SNRUB, I guess simple concepts aren't so simple for you. You're trying to justify one with the other. Calling out one knee-jerk reaction with another one does nothing but show how much of a hypocrite you really are.
Posted by: | Apr 11, 2005 6:49:03 PM
Touche. Bye losers.
Posted by: Mr. Snrub | Apr 12, 2005 6:41:13 AM
I guess SNRUB took his ball and went home.
HAHAHAHA!
Run away! Run away!
Posted by: writer_nw | Apr 12, 2005 9:43:05 PM
Hi,
I just heard something very disturbing. Recently, a US Marine wrote Starbucks thanking them for wonderful coffee and requested complimentary coffee. He received a response saying that Starbucks did not suppor the war or anyone in it and would not send him any coffee. Is this True?
Posted by: G. | May 2, 2005 1:24:18 PM
Re: The posting below. The Starbucks/war urban legend has been DEBUNKED many times -- here and elsewhere. Do at least A LITTLE research before spreading it. Try typing STARBUCKS, IRAQ WAR and SNOPES into Google and you'll get your answer.
Posted by: STARBUCKS GOSSIP webmast | May 2, 2005 1:36:31 PM
Liberal bias I can typically tolerate. However, this article pushed me over the edge.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45694
I am now going to find another place to get my coffee. . . .
Posted by: Joe | Aug 10, 2005 5:05:33 AM
Im a South african who recently moved here, and starbucks is the best!! and ya, those quotes are cool because they are definately doing their job. They were meant to 'spark conversation' and look whats happening... now we have more than conversation! Stuff this liberalism vs conservative thing, one day you will die, and then you wont care much about it, so enjoy the coffee fools!
Posted by: South African | Aug 25, 2005 11:49:06 PM
Cups quotes foster "philosophical debate"? Then let's see Starbucks have the nerve to quote an opposite viewpoint-- takes less courage to put an Earthday quote on your cups than a Billy Graham quote. Or could it be that you've exploited so-called liberals into the market place by makingthem THINK you "care" about their feelings? One viewpoint is not "debate" and it is a shame to have to be aware of what your child's hot cocoa is preaching to him or her.
Now Bess Eaton Donuts makes it clear it is not fostering debate but using its business to put a Scripture in front of you. At least they are open and honest.
Posted by: | Aug 28, 2005 5:15:52 PM
ANON 5:15:
Starbuck's doesn't have to give equal time to Billy Graham in order to foster debate. If you disagree with what is printed on your child's cup, why not have an honest to goodness discussion with him about it? Acknowledge that there are different viewpoints in the world and have the intelligence to know why you disagree with it and to be able to explain that perspective to another person.
Besides, I've been thinking for hours and I can't really think of a rational, thought-provoking quote from Billy Graham. Perhaps you could help?
Posted by: Barista to the Stars | Aug 29, 2005 5:19:58 AM
Let's try thisd - this should provoke some good debate at Starbucks:
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
perhaps my law school and university of Chisgao credentials are insufficient to satisfy your last resort thinking "we'll say they're unintelligent if we disagree." Am more intelligent comment from you would have ended at that Starbucks isnt obligated to present both sides. No it isn't at all. By the freedom won to this nation under God by teh Christian who founded it Starbucks may present teh views of any religions, no religion, any special inmterest group, even soemthing aconsidered outrageous to all, but many of all beliefs spiritually and politically will prefer to deal with an honest company whether or not they agree with its convictions. This adverstising campaign is not honest.
And by theway, my child accepted theLord Jesus CHrist on her own by her own decision at a very young age, filled with the of God.. At the age of 7 she would be as surprised and disappointed in the onesided quotes as any.Speaking of Starbucks lack of courage, where's your email address?? Easy to take an anonymous stand for what you allegedly believe.
Posted by: | Aug 29, 2005 8:54:45 AM
How about Bob Dylan, Mother Teresa, Pascal, Napoleon Bonaparte? Anyone object to their quotes?
Posted by: | Aug 29, 2005 10:01:22 AM
ANON:
Did the university of chicago teach typing, grammar and logic? Just curious....
My point is simply we all encounter viewpoints that differ from our own. The true measure of intelligence is to consider those viewpoints and to know why we disagree with them. If you don't believe in evolution (for example); okey dokey. I happen to disagree. I also happen to know WHY I disagree and know where to find the logical, scientific proof of what I believe.
Believe what you want to believe.
As for my email address, apparently computing is not taught at U of Chicago either as it's pretty simple to contact someone posting on this board.
Have a nice day and don't forget your latte.
Barista to the Stars
Posted by: Barista to the Stars | Aug 29, 2005 10:30:38 AM
Good grief!!
Just drink the coffee! Enjoy it and good conversation and time out from the usual day-to-day agenda!Posted by: Charmaine | Sep 4, 2005 2:26:44 PM
Good grief Barista to the stars -- you are typical of those who give being liberal a bad name-- no substantive argument so you curse, slam and name call, criticize--- what about the inner city and minority population that hasn't learned typing or computer skills -- would you slam them too as you sip your Starbbucks?---no typing wasn't taught at U of C it considered beneath us. I did learn 3 languages and obtain history and law degrees though. Before you knock it, it is as liberal as can be so do your research. And if you read this column, an HVAC company owner was reamed and his business attacked publicly for expressing his opinion. So anonymity is clearly exploited by some while those who are willing to put their names where their mouths are are at risk to the anonymous who don't really believe what they preach enough to stand up for it. This the culture fo hate, not cooperation, that commentators like you support. You want everyone's opinion expressed so long as it agrees with yours. Youonly slam those you have no valid answer for. That is the difference-- it is easy to pose the MINORITY view of this country -- antiBush, anti prayer in schools, anti-family, but anonymously as to your personal life. I have already won the Starbucks battle in my town. While you were busy still debating, we were done with it and all busy helping the hurricane victims. My Starbucks removed the cups with the gay references from their stock and will gladly give any one a different cup if they do not wish to advocate the statements on the one they get, whether conservative, liberal or sexual. So yes, if a conservative quote comes up that you can't handle, once again, thanks to those you call conservative, your FREEDOM TO CHOOSE has again been preserved!
May the only wise God who has so graciously brought us into contact open the eyes of your understanding as we return to ministering and providing humanitarian help to those who cannot afford a Starbucks. Ooops, isn't that what liberals are supposed to do??
Posted by: | Sep 12, 2005 8:19:07 AM
PS in case you have not had the privilege of attending a unviersity, the theory of evolution, as it is properly called, is not considered by the scientific community as scientifically proven, it is a theory, such as the big bang theory is a theory. Also many methods of radioactive dating is based on theory and is, especially in the last ten years under much reassesment by the scientif community. In case you are under the false impression that scientific knowledge has anything to do with one's lack of faith or the knowledge of God, you would be surprised at the number and quality of statesman, doctors, research scientists, physicists, paleobotantist, and Nobel Prize winners that professed not a vague faith in God, but the Lordship of Jesus Christ and the knowledge of the power of the Holy Spirit in their lives. That was the start of the list I sent pre-Katrina including also names from George Washington to Bob Dylan -- and Mother TEresa -- now she woudl be in teh category of conservatives and people of faith you are slamming, wouldn't she?
Posted by: | Sep 12, 2005 8:29:43 AM
The big point people are missing here is that just because conservatives are complaining about the quotes and finding them personally offensive doesn't mean they are demanding them to be banned. They are simply exercising the right to have an opinion and voice it. This is still America. The left however has been on a quest to have anything it finds offensive (i.e. God, religion and anything that might require a person to take personal responsibility for their lives) banished from the public square in the name of political correctness.
Posted by: Jeff | Oct 5, 2005 8:49:06 AM
Oh everyone loves free speech until someone quotes John 14:6
Posted by: Natalie | Nov 7, 2005 6:43:20 PM
People who are influenced by the quotes on a freakin' cup, obviously do not have moral standards to follow as it is. They need to be pointed in the right direction but by what? Who are these quotes coming from again?
Posted by: Romie | Dec 12, 2005 7:32:46 AM
Be exceptional. Make tremendous efforts to be extraordinary. What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation to mankind. Just make sure you do so…
now there is an attempt at liberal brain washing if i ever saw it. isnt this how hitler also got his start? infultrating the choice beverage companys. whats next for the evil liberals? kidnaping our children and raping our spouces no less.
interestingly enough my pro conservative veiws have not been shaken even after 5 years of drinking starbucks coffee.
Posted by: brittany | Mar 15, 2006 10:03:23 AM
oh and one more thing
"I want to enjoy your product without having Earth Day Network propaganda thrust at me," wrote Malachi Salcido of East Wenatchee, Wash.
is that a joke, did she actually go so far as to say it was being "thrusted" at her. Interestingly enough this person won’t discontinue the consumption of the beverage and therefore is still supporting the company but when that barista puts shoves that coffee at her, thus “thrusting” the quote into their face. she will feel certain levels of disgust.
Posted by: brittany | Mar 15, 2006 10:09:29 AM
The only thing I don't like about the quotes, is that I keep getting the same one. I can only think about the importance of the Oceans (quote #62) for so long (though, i do agree with the quote).
Also, where the hell can I get a "I didn't vote 4 bush" wristband?
Posted by: Becca | May 25, 2006 6:40:36 AM
The way I see it...
No one is reading the cups.
Posted by: sbuxmanager | May 25, 2006 7:43:05 AM
Wow, this thread has really opened me up to a lot of new ideas. How can you NOT love internet political discussions?!
Posted by: Jon | May 26, 2006 9:00:54 AM
becca, let me know about that wrist band when you find it!!
Posted by: barista in love | May 26, 2006 1:52:45 PM
BiL- Success! http://www.ididnotvote4bush.com/
Posted by: Becca | May 26, 2006 1:58:29 PM
We were put here on this earth to love and help one another, so why do we find that so hard to achieve? Don't be stingy. Don't be cold-hearted. Every person you meet is fighting a harder battle than you'd expect. Be receptive and kind to those around you. Kindness is an attribute of God-Like love. Strive to be a little more kind each day. Life is too short for trivial arguements and selfish behavior. Never waste a breath. Never waste a second of the sunshine you've been given. Live each day to it's fullest potential. Don't be afraid to stand a little taller - to sing a little more - and to laugh a little louder. Embrace the world around you and be thankful for the greatest gift you could have ever been given - LIFE.
-Stephanie Carpenter
Posted by: Stephanie | Sep 21, 2006 7:39:47 PM
Starbucks should put Anne Coulter
s hateful quotes on Starbucks coffee. They should put Bush and Cheney quotes about WMD which conservatives sweep under the rug.They should also place the ten commandments but only in their entirety and not watered down especially the one about coveting your neighbors slave.
Or stoning anyone who doesn't follow a dark age religion.
Posted by: NotFundie | Mar 9, 2007 7:45:38 AM
I think there should be Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reily comments on the cups. Those would be perfect to read in the morning, quite the eye openner you might say, when you start to read the cups. I usually like to write my own quotes on the cups in the morning to some of my favorite customers. It is very funny.
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STARBUCKS REBEL ALLIANCEPosted by: LIVE FREE OR DIE | Mar 9, 2007 8:45:32 AM
Just a question if someone would like to answer it for me. I have heard from some reliable sources that starbucks as a corporation is pro choice on abortion. The source is someone who works in the high end of the coffee market and is a person of honesty and integrity so can any of you tell me if they have heard any reports or rumors to back this. I'm not saying they support it financially but they have just said they are not against abortion. Send me any info you have thank you
Posted by: Dan | Sep 5, 2007 4:30:09 PM
Who are the "they" at Starbucks who allegedly made this statement? If a statement is not online -- and it isn't -- there is no corporate position on this. And do you really think a public company is going to take a stand on this kind of issue? No way.
Posted by: STARBUCKS GOSSIP webmaster | Sep 5, 2007 4:56:40 PM
I would like to clarify here by saying that Starbucks does support any specific political agenda whether left or right accept to promote the common good. Now, Starbucks does have a corporate matching program known as, "Choose to Give", which give up to $1000. Since Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization, Starbucks partners can give money to them and Starbucks is therefore compelled to make a matching contribution. Just as you can donate money to religious social programs and Starbucks is compelled to give money to them too in matching amounts. I personally, contribute money to my alma mater each year, a little bit but I know it helps some students get another book.
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AIM SN: BOSTONSTARREBELPosted by: BOSTON STARBUCKS REBEL | Sep 5, 2007 5:43:44 PM
haha! Conservatives get their feathers ruffled at anything these days it seems. That's okay I suppose - we all understand that reality has a strong liberal bias. :) Go Starbucks!
Posted by: RachelG | Mar 9, 2008 12:16:43 AM
Once again, this is something that needs to change. I've not looked at them for so long that I forgot they were there! But it does send a very political message, like having the New York Times in the stores. If we're truly getting back to basics and putting the emphasis on coffee, these two things should be removed. It doesn't matter what the message, rather it was the New York Post or Fox News, it's still a political message and should be removed.
Posted by: | Mar 9, 2008 4:45:13 AM
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