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June 17, 2010

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Starbucks believes in the whole PC thing. The PC grew out of the civil rights legislation.
Hence, if you are for said legislation you must support anyone that feels they have been discriminated against and denied access to a job.
Essentially the civil rights agenda mandates with whom you will do business with and whom you shall hire at your private business.
This is what Rand Paul has a problem with. A private business should not be forced to do business with anyone.

Former 3 year Partner

There are plenty of opportunities for people with disabilities at Sbux. While the requirements for the barista position do include that a person should be able to lift up to 50 lbs, it's pretty infrequent that we actually had to do so (I worked there for 3 years). My horrible SM (the reason why I left) fired a woman who had brain damage and "couldn't learn the register quick enough" even though this barista was friendly to customers and could have done cleaning tasks, restocking pastries, brewing the drip coffee, and general making-nice-with-customers duties. Someone with MS can probably work the register and bar (if it's not overly busy) depending on how bad the MS is. There are plenty of things to do there. The same SM fired a shift supervisor because he went on medical leave for an injured back (unrelated to work) and needed back surgery. Needless to say, she (the SM) doesn't work for Sbux anymore. There should be zero tolerance for discrimination.

Former 3 year Partner

Has anyone contemplated the possibility that the applicant handed the application TO the manager and maybe had a brief discussion with him/her? Or maybe the applicant was a regular customer and at some point in time had discussed having MS? Clearly the manager knew about it. We don't know how based on the article, but if Sbux lost the case because the manager knew about the MS.... then probably the manager knew about the MS. Yes, we all know the application doesn't ask about it. So clearly the manager found out another way. So let's move past arguing about the application asking about it.

kandi

In Alberta, Canada where I am am SM; we have a new online hiring system for Barista's and Shifts. We cannot even accept paper resume's anymore nor do we see the candidate before we interview.

I wonder if this person could claim the same discrimination when he is not even present to deliver his resume...

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I don't know how badly this person is "Differently" abled(Don't want to offend anyone), but just remember this simple rule..Unlike 5 years ago, in which we could have extra labor on the floor, we are pretty thin in regards to labor. That being said, maybe it would be hard to run shifts with a guy who has significant issues, when you only have 2 people on the floor. I work in a store in which we go with 2 man deployment for most of the day, minus the overlap during shift changes, and in the morning. You want as many healthy people as you can possibly get, just because you are going to be responsible for so much more.

It's hard enough working with a person who is healthy, but lazy as all hell..Working with someone who can't physically do the work makes it even harder, especially in this lean labor era. In previous years, it would be perfectly acceptable to take on someone with a serious physical disability, and put them on something that requires light physical effort(lobby attendants,etc.)

I just see it as a shakedown, and Starbucks realized that it's cheaper to pay 100k, than it is to pay 500k for lawyers, depositions, and the like..Just remember, settling, doesn't imply guilt..

hearbutloud

This is sort of a GUNS don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people sort of argument.

Starbucks does not discriminate. Some of its managers do. Call Partner Resources, every time. Then, if nothing happens, you can claim discrimination. But, let's not knee-jerk it.

Bottom line: If this person had MS severe enough for a prospective employer to DEDUCE A DIAGNOSIS, then they probably could not do the job. Otherwise, how would the manager have known?

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Cubical Drone

I remember this case from when I was still working at the CCC! This guy tried to force the SM to interview him after never receiving a call. WHAT A DOUCHE! Of course he didn't get the job, that's why he was never invited to an interview in the first place. Last I checked, trying to bully someone into giving you a job NEVER works.

KRAYB

Some of you make me sick ! I have MS and once worked as a Network Administrator. I could not go back due to vision issues and the demand and pace was overwhelming. The discrimination in this country is shocking and I find NO respect from most of society for those who are at least trying to contribute to society.

Most often, by law, we are given the right to say disabled or not by the Americians with Disbility Act. Put "disabled" on a resume or application and I will be right to say...there will be discrimination. Those who don't know what its like to live with this illness, I'd say learn first instead of being ignorant about the disease and how it effects one and their family.

Greed, discrimination, racism...all come in many shapes, sizes. Americians are selfish almost to the point that you would rather give a job to an illegal worker who dosen't give a rats *)UT about this country but those who can work and have worked but hard times fell through illness. Sad day in this country.

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